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		<title>Comment on Marijuana a growing problem in Oregon forests by roger g.</title>
		<link>http://westinstenv.org/news/2010/08/09/marijuana-a-growing-problem-in-oregon-forests/#comment-1677</link>
		<dc:creator>roger g.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 20:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its only a "problem" because you won't let people peacefully grow in their own backyards.  End this nonsense.  Go after the cartels and leave the domestic producers alone.  Better yet, end the ridiculous prohibition and TAX THEM.

&lt;strong&gt;Reply:&lt;/strong&gt; Your comment is a little bit accusatory, roger. What am I, King of the World? If you think so, then please send your taxes directly to me.

And another thing. Whether marijuana is legalized or not, there will still be criminals who attempt to circumvent the laws.

And another thing. Commandeering public property, with guns at the ready, for any purpose, is a crime. It will always be a crime. Whether perpetrated by aliens or domestics. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its only a &#8220;problem&#8221; because you won&#8217;t let people peacefully grow in their own backyards.  End this nonsense.  Go after the cartels and leave the domestic producers alone.  Better yet, end the ridiculous prohibition and TAX THEM.</p>
<p><strong>Reply:</strong> Your comment is a little bit accusatory, roger. What am I, King of the World? If you think so, then please send your taxes directly to me.</p>
<p>And another thing. Whether marijuana is legalized or not, there will still be criminals who attempt to circumvent the laws.</p>
<p>And another thing. Commandeering public property, with guns at the ready, for any purpose, is a crime. It will always be a crime. Whether perpetrated by aliens or domestics.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Coalition demands release of details on Ruby Pipeline $20M extortion deal by Allen T.</title>
		<link>http://westinstenv.org/news/2010/08/14/coalition-demands-release-of-details-on-ruby-pipeline-20m-extortion-deal/#comment-1641</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do like Nancy Reagan, and JUST SAY NO!!! If any of you wish to sell your grazing permit, just sell it to a neighbor, or a relative! I just don't understand your ire! Aren't your permits worth more as a result of this "deal with the devil"?

&lt;strong&gt;Reply: &lt;/strong&gt;WWP now has the cash, thanks to Ruby, to bid up permits to astronomical levels and out-bid real ranchers. They also have more $$ to finance lawsuits intended to terminate grazing permits. Either way, ranchers are put out of business, which is the stated intention of WWP. What business are you in Allen?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do like Nancy Reagan, and JUST SAY NO!!! If any of you wish to sell your grazing permit, just sell it to a neighbor, or a relative! I just don&#8217;t understand your ire! Aren&#8217;t your permits worth more as a result of this &#8220;deal with the devil&#8221;?</p>
<p><strong>Reply: </strong>WWP now has the cash, thanks to Ruby, to bid up permits to astronomical levels and out-bid real ranchers. They also have more $$ to finance lawsuits intended to terminate grazing permits. Either way, ranchers are put out of business, which is the stated intention of WWP. What business are you in Allen?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hidden in Wis. national forest: marijuana megafarm by Al B</title>
		<link>http://westinstenv.org/news/2010/08/13/hidden-in-wis-national-forest-marijuana-megafarm/#comment-1635</link>
		<dc:creator>Al B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 20:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Government land is exploited from crossing the border to producing illegal plant cultivation.  We do not see similar problems where the private land owner has property along the border.  So the issue is to sell the public land into private ownership and the owners will secure their properties and stop the cartel partnership between our government and the drug cartel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government land is exploited from crossing the border to producing illegal plant cultivation.  We do not see similar problems where the private land owner has property along the border.  So the issue is to sell the public land into private ownership and the owners will secure their properties and stop the cartel partnership between our government and the drug cartel.</p>
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		<title>Comment on UPDATE: 1 dead, 2 injured in bear attack at MT campground by YPmule</title>
		<link>http://westinstenv.org/news/2010/07/28/update-1-dead-2-injured-in-bear-attack-at-mt-campground/#comment-1610</link>
		<dc:creator>YPmule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 01:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grizzly that attacked campers near Yellowstone was thin, but not starving

http://tinyurl.com/2evbnts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grizzly that attacked campers near Yellowstone was thin, but not starving</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jerry Brown calls state&#8217;s global warming law the key difference between him, Meg Whitman by Ron Kilmartin</title>
		<link>http://westinstenv.org/news/2010/07/30/jerry-brown-calls-states-global-warming-law-the-key-difference-between-him-meg-whitman/#comment-1601</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Kilmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 02:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The liberal pols really have their ostrich heads in the sand on global warming. In an attempt to help them see the light, Mark Mareno at Climate Depot put together a composite of interviews of left-wing climate scientists who believe the anthropogenic global warming (AGW) theory is a hoax and a scam.  It is interesting that these folks, all liberals,  are also foreigners, that is,  not in the American AGW fraternity of  liars.  My take is that the foreign scientist communities (not the associations) have already discarded the CO2 theory completely, post Climategate.  The American scientific associations and the government agencies are shamelessly still peddling AGW.  Our liberal pols,like Brown and Schwarzenegger, religiously believe the government agency cabals since they are all from the leftist ruling class that believes government can do no wrong. 

Here is the URL:
http://www.climatedepot.com/a/7477/Leftwing-Env-Scientist-Bails-Out-Of-Global-Warming-Movement-Declares-it-a-corrupt-social-phenomenonstrictly-an-imaginary-problem-of-the-1st-World-middleclass
  
Maybe if the liberals hear the bad news that the hoax is real from scientists in their own ruling class, they might come to their senses.  I am not hopeful, but it was at least worth Mareno’s effort.  Hopefully your readers will check the URL out and come to their own conclusions, which should lead them to support Proposition 23, which will delay AB 32 implementation until the unemployment rate is as low as it was the day Schwarzenegger signed AB32 into law in 2006.

And thanks to Ken McLaughlin and Paul Rogers for setting the reader straight on the CO2 hoax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The liberal pols really have their ostrich heads in the sand on global warming. In an attempt to help them see the light, Mark Mareno at Climate Depot put together a composite of interviews of left-wing climate scientists who believe the anthropogenic global warming (AGW) theory is a hoax and a scam.  It is interesting that these folks, all liberals,  are also foreigners, that is,  not in the American AGW fraternity of  liars.  My take is that the foreign scientist communities (not the associations) have already discarded the CO2 theory completely, post Climategate.  The American scientific associations and the government agencies are shamelessly still peddling AGW.  Our liberal pols,like Brown and Schwarzenegger, religiously believe the government agency cabals since they are all from the leftist ruling class that believes government can do no wrong. </p>
<p>Here is the URL:<br />
<a href="http://www.climatedepot.com/a/7477/Leftwing-Env-Scientist-Bails-Out-Of-Global-Warming-Movement-Declares-it-a-corrupt-social-phenomenonstrictly-an-imaginary-problem-of-the-1st-World-middleclass" rel="nofollow">http://www.climatedepot.com/a/7477/Leftwing-Env-Scientist-Bails-Out-Of-Global-Warming-Movement-Declares-it-a-corrupt-social-phenomenonstrictly-an-imaginary-problem-of-the-1st-World-middleclass</a></p>
<p>Maybe if the liberals hear the bad news that the hoax is real from scientists in their own ruling class, they might come to their senses.  I am not hopeful, but it was at least worth Mareno’s effort.  Hopefully your readers will check the URL out and come to their own conclusions, which should lead them to support Proposition 23, which will delay AB 32 implementation until the unemployment rate is as low as it was the day Schwarzenegger signed AB32 into law in 2006.</p>
<p>And thanks to Ken McLaughlin and Paul Rogers for setting the reader straight on the CO2 hoax.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Federal Judge Blocks Portions of Arizona Illegal Immigration Law by M. Levine</title>
		<link>http://westinstenv.org/news/2010/07/28/federal-judge-blocks-portions-of-arizona-illegal-immigration-law/#comment-1594</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>House Bill 2013 and Senate Bill 1070

0 = Arizona
2 = USA/ Our Constitution/ We the People of the United States 

This month of July 2010, our U.S. Federal courts have found the so-called State of Arizona hate-filled legislation, namely House Bill 2013 and Senate Bill 1070 un-constitution (so much for the intellect of Jan Brewer, "Did you read the bills you signed?").  But we all know that they will go crying to the Supreme Court of the United States. Please, please, please go.  We will fight you in Arizona, any other state, and yes in Washington DC. We will not tire, we will not be silent and we will persevere, I promise you.

In my opinion the Republican Party has been taken over the most extreme of clans; the Baggers, Birthers and Blowhards (people who love to push their beliefs and hate on others while trying to take away the rights of those they just hate) and that’s who they need to extract from their party if they real want to win in November. Good Luck, because as they said in Waco, "We ain’t coming out."

It’s all about politics: Jan Brewer you were never elected to be Governor, but you have no problem trying to get elected on the back of undocumented workers, you loser (sure you may win but the long-term effects to your so called State is just beginning). Here is a partial list of your hate filled legislation;

1. S.B. 1070,
2. House Bill 2013
3. No permit conceal weapons law,
4. The famous Birthers law,
5. Banning Ethnic studies law, 
6. Banning human-animal hybrid (aren’t most GOPers crossed with the Reptilian race?) or are they just giving Laurence Gonzales some great promotion material for his new book “Lucy”.
7. Could she be behind the Mural in Prescott, Arizona, ordered to be whitened,
8. On deck to pass no citizenship to babies born to undocumented workers,
9. If she can read she should look up Arizona’s House Bill 2779 from two years ago (which was un-constitution and failed when legally challenged),
10. The boycotted Martin Luther King Day. What idiots don’t want another holiday? Yes, you guessed it Arizona.

Well Arizona, you can keep boycotting new holidays, passing hate filled legislation and the rest of our country will continue to challenge you in court of law and Boycott your so-called state.

Lets face it, no one can real believe anything that comes out of Brewer’s mouth, in an interview, this year, in an attempt to gain sympathy, she first said her father had died in Germany fighting the Nazi in World War II (which ended 1945) but of course we find out the truth that father was never in Germany and died in California in 1955. But we are suppose to believe everything else she says, right! 

As they say in the World Cup: Gooooooooal!

&lt;strong&gt;Reply:&lt;/strong&gt; There you go. I let you have your say, on my site no less. Please don't accuse me of "censoring" flaming nutwad Commie extremist America haters. Not this time, anyway.</description>
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<p>0 = Arizona<br />
2 = USA/ Our Constitution/ We the People of the United States </p>
<p>This month of July 2010, our U.S. Federal courts have found the so-called State of Arizona hate-filled legislation, namely House Bill 2013 and Senate Bill 1070 un-constitution (so much for the intellect of Jan Brewer, &#8220;Did you read the bills you signed?&#8221;).  But we all know that they will go crying to the Supreme Court of the United States. Please, please, please go.  We will fight you in Arizona, any other state, and yes in Washington DC. We will not tire, we will not be silent and we will persevere, I promise you.</p>
<p>In my opinion the Republican Party has been taken over the most extreme of clans; the Baggers, Birthers and Blowhards (people who love to push their beliefs and hate on others while trying to take away the rights of those they just hate) and that’s who they need to extract from their party if they real want to win in November. Good Luck, because as they said in Waco, &#8220;We ain’t coming out.&#8221;</p>
<p>It’s all about politics: Jan Brewer you were never elected to be Governor, but you have no problem trying to get elected on the back of undocumented workers, you loser (sure you may win but the long-term effects to your so called State is just beginning). Here is a partial list of your hate filled legislation;</p>
<p>1. S.B. 1070,<br />
2. House Bill 2013<br />
3. No permit conceal weapons law,<br />
4. The famous Birthers law,<br />
5. Banning Ethnic studies law,<br />
6. Banning human-animal hybrid (aren’t most GOPers crossed with the Reptilian race?) or are they just giving Laurence Gonzales some great promotion material for his new book “Lucy”.<br />
7. Could she be behind the Mural in Prescott, Arizona, ordered to be whitened,<br />
8. On deck to pass no citizenship to babies born to undocumented workers,<br />
9. If she can read she should look up Arizona’s House Bill 2779 from two years ago (which was un-constitution and failed when legally challenged),<br />
10. The boycotted Martin Luther King Day. What idiots don’t want another holiday? Yes, you guessed it Arizona.</p>
<p>Well Arizona, you can keep boycotting new holidays, passing hate filled legislation and the rest of our country will continue to challenge you in court of law and Boycott your so-called state.</p>
<p>Lets face it, no one can real believe anything that comes out of Brewer’s mouth, in an interview, this year, in an attempt to gain sympathy, she first said her father had died in Germany fighting the Nazi in World War II (which ended 1945) but of course we find out the truth that father was never in Germany and died in California in 1955. But we are suppose to believe everything else she says, right! </p>
<p>As they say in the World Cup: Gooooooooal!</p>
<p><strong>Reply:</strong> There you go. I let you have your say, on my site no less. Please don&#8217;t accuse me of &#8220;censoring&#8221; flaming nutwad Commie extremist America haters. Not this time, anyway.</p>
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		<title>Comment on UPDATE: 1 dead, 2 injured in bear attack at MT campground by Mike</title>
		<link>http://westinstenv.org/news/2010/07/28/update-1-dead-2-injured-in-bear-attack-at-mt-campground/#comment-1583</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert F. comments:


&lt;blockquote&gt;The bear came back and attacked these people in two separate attacks  .
 
The Lamar Valley / Soda Butte campground is close to Cooke City.
 
The wolf introduction took place in the Lamar Valley. The Lamar Valley is the epicenter of zero elk cow calf recruitment ratios for the Northern Yellowstone Elk Herd for the past 14 years.
 
The Lamar Valley is the area where tens of thousands of elk have been sterilized from the ecosystem leaving nothing for bears to eat now other than bison.
 
The Hayden Valley, where Dr. L. David Mech orchestrated the agenda-driven elk cow / calf mortality study that phonied up the mortality numbers in a study designed to blame Grizzly bears for the elimination of the prey base, is 60.4 miles away.
 
Animals didn't kill this person, wolf zealots did.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert F. comments:</p>
<blockquote><p>The bear came back and attacked these people in two separate attacks  .</p>
<p>The Lamar Valley / Soda Butte campground is close to Cooke City.</p>
<p>The wolf introduction took place in the Lamar Valley. The Lamar Valley is the epicenter of zero elk cow calf recruitment ratios for the Northern Yellowstone Elk Herd for the past 14 years.</p>
<p>The Lamar Valley is the area where tens of thousands of elk have been sterilized from the ecosystem leaving nothing for bears to eat now other than bison.</p>
<p>The Hayden Valley, where Dr. L. David Mech orchestrated the agenda-driven elk cow / calf mortality study that phonied up the mortality numbers in a study designed to blame Grizzly bears for the elimination of the prey base, is 60.4 miles away.</p>
<p>Animals didn&#8217;t kill this person, wolf zealots did.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Comment on Northwest Windpower: Problems Aplenty by Norm W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I pointed out long ago, the “renewable” low energy-density sources are really what can be called “Intermittent large capital cost sources”.  First of all, they all require a HUGE capital expenditure (which is why they are subsidized) which means the cost to service the capital exceeds the cost of fuel for a conventional energy source.  Further, they are intermittent, which means either you have to have them supply only a small fraction of the need (just turn the damper down on the regular plants, when the intermittent ones are working), so you save only a fraction of the expected “green” advantage.  On the other hand, if the intermittents are to produce a LARGE fraction of the total energy needs, then you must build energy storage means, so when the intermittents shut down, you can tap the stored energy.  This energy storage means is VERY expensive, and adds to the cost of capital to realize a significant gain of “green” value. 

In other words, not using safe modern nuclear is STUPID and VERY short-sighted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I pointed out long ago, the “renewable” low energy-density sources are really what can be called “Intermittent large capital cost sources”.  First of all, they all require a HUGE capital expenditure (which is why they are subsidized) which means the cost to service the capital exceeds the cost of fuel for a conventional energy source.  Further, they are intermittent, which means either you have to have them supply only a small fraction of the need (just turn the damper down on the regular plants, when the intermittent ones are working), so you save only a fraction of the expected “green” advantage.  On the other hand, if the intermittents are to produce a LARGE fraction of the total energy needs, then you must build energy storage means, so when the intermittents shut down, you can tap the stored energy.  This energy storage means is VERY expensive, and adds to the cost of capital to realize a significant gain of “green” value. </p>
<p>In other words, not using safe modern nuclear is STUPID and VERY short-sighted.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Taxpayers Sue Gov. Gregoire to Invalidate Climate Change Executive Order by Dan P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From 2001 through 2009 the atmospheric CO2 increased by 18% of the total increase from 1800 to 2001 while the average global temperature has not increased significantly and the trend of yearly averages through 2009 is down. The El Nino that made early 2010 look a bit warmer than the trend, peaked in March, 2010 and average global temperature is now dropping rapidly. 

Research, with latest findings regarding projected temperature trends, is reported [&lt;a href="http://climaterealists.com/index.php?tid=145&#38;linkbox=true" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;]. It presents a rational equation that accurately calculates the average global temperatures since 1895 with a coefficient of determination of 0.88. That means that it explains 88% of the measured temperatures for 114 years and counting. The best that GCMs have done is significantly less than this. The equation predicts that the trend of average global temperatures will be down. The above link and sub links, including links to the temperature data reported by the five reporting agencies, track the data back to the published credible sources. 

As the atmospheric CO2 continues to increase and the average global temperature does not, perhaps the comments of ill-informed people will subside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From 2001 through 2009 the atmospheric CO2 increased by 18% of the total increase from 1800 to 2001 while the average global temperature has not increased significantly and the trend of yearly averages through 2009 is down. The El Nino that made early 2010 look a bit warmer than the trend, peaked in March, 2010 and average global temperature is now dropping rapidly. </p>
<p>Research, with latest findings regarding projected temperature trends, is reported [<a href="http://climaterealists.com/index.php?tid=145&amp;linkbox=true" rel="nofollow">here</a>]. It presents a rational equation that accurately calculates the average global temperatures since 1895 with a coefficient of determination of 0.88. That means that it explains 88% of the measured temperatures for 114 years and counting. The best that GCMs have done is significantly less than this. The equation predicts that the trend of average global temperatures will be down. The above link and sub links, including links to the temperature data reported by the five reporting agencies, track the data back to the published credible sources. </p>
<p>As the atmospheric CO2 continues to increase and the average global temperature does not, perhaps the comments of ill-informed people will subside.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Younger Dryas Megafauna Extinction Comet Theory Discounted by TT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- What was the cause of this flood?
- A flood alone could not cause all these extinctions?

&lt;strong&gt;Reply:&lt;/strong&gt; There was no global flood, but a series of regional floods &lt;em&gt;before&lt;/em&gt; the Younger Dryas (but after the Older Dryas). The Dryases were glacial stadials, i.e. cold periods. A warm period between them, from ~15,000 to 13,500 BP, was when much of the continental ice sheets melted. 

There was no single catastrophic flood. The Bretz floods that drained Glacial Lake Missoula occurred as many as 50 times over a period of 1,500 years. That factoid tends to disprove the single comet impact theory.

Nor were the floods everywhere. Plenty of now-extinct megafauna lived where there were no floods. So floods, warming, etc. are not satisfactory explanations for the extinctions. Human hunting most probably played a significant role.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- What was the cause of this flood?<br />
- A flood alone could not cause all these extinctions?</p>
<p><strong>Reply:</strong> There was no global flood, but a series of regional floods <em>before</em> the Younger Dryas (but after the Older Dryas). The Dryases were glacial stadials, i.e. cold periods. A warm period between them, from ~15,000 to 13,500 BP, was when much of the continental ice sheets melted. </p>
<p>There was no single catastrophic flood. The Bretz floods that drained Glacial Lake Missoula occurred as many as 50 times over a period of 1,500 years. That factoid tends to disprove the single comet impact theory.</p>
<p>Nor were the floods everywhere. Plenty of now-extinct megafauna lived where there were no floods. So floods, warming, etc. are not satisfactory explanations for the extinctions. Human hunting most probably played a significant role.</p>
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