Snow Creek Fire
Location: 14 miles W of Sunriver, Deschutes Co., OR
Specific Location: Snow Creek near S. Century Drive, 3 mi N of Crane Prairie Reservoir, Lat 43° 50′ 20″ Lon 121° 44′ 51″
Date of Origin: 08/17/2008
Cause: lightning
Situation as of 08/27/2008 6:30 PM
Personnel: 308
Size: 447 acres
Percent contained: 100%
Costs to Date: Not reported, est. $3.6 million
Fire is 100% contained. This is the Final 209.
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Situation as of 08/25/2008 4:30 PM
Personnel: 441
Size: 447 acres
Percent contained: 100%
Costs to Date: $3,037,000
A transition and shadowing day is planned for tomorrow between WA-IIMT3 and Local Agency personnel (USFS) that will be managing this fire on 08/27/08.
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Situation as of 08/24/2008 4:30 PM
Personnel: 611
Size: 447 acres
Percent contained: 100%
Costs to Date: $2,624,860
Area closure remains in effect in the fire area.
Fire 758, 126 acs. Fire 761, 263 acs. Fire 757, 2 acs. Fire 853, 0.1 acs. Fire 901, 56 acs. All fires 100% containment. Small fire is extinguished.
7.5 miles constructed dozer line and 1.25 miles constructed hand lines (758, 761,757, and 853 fires). 2.44 miles constructed dozer line and 0.27 miles constructed hand lines (901 Fire). Demobilize air resources and 6 crews this morning (8/25/08).
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Situation as of 08/22/2008 5:00 PM
Personnel: 463
Size: 389 acres (and 57 acres from 901 Fire)
Percent contained: 70%
Costs to Date: $1,400,000
Area closure remains in effect in the fire area.
Fire activity was confined to areas with heavy downed fuels today. Held all lines. Met today’s objectives of mop up along all control lines.
Relocated ICP/Base Camp to USFS Ogden Group Camp site. Fire 758 is 126 acres. Fire 761 is 263 acres. Picking up 901 Fire from USFS, currently 57 acres.
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Situation as of 08/21/2008 5:00 PM
Personnel: 459
Size: 389 acres
Percent contained: 70%
Costs to Date: $1,015,000
Line construction was completed around fires 761, 758 and spot fires. Held all lines. Fire 758 is 126 acres. Fire 761 is 263 acres. Approx. 7.5 miles constructed dozer line accomplished to date. Approx. 1.25 miles constructed hand lines accomplished to date.
Communications from ICP (Command Channel) to fire line is an issue that is being worked on. Plan to move ICP/Base Camp to new location tomorrow.
Locate, line, GPS and mop up spot fires. Mop up at least 50 feet to a goal of 300 feet of all control lines.
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Situation as of 08/20/2008 5:00 PM
Personnel: 320
Size: 300 acres
Percent contained: 50%
Costs to Date: $570,000
Anticipate the majority of line construction to be completed by end of shift today.
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Situation as of 08/19/2008 5:00 PM
Personnel: 213
Size: 300 acres
Percent contained: 20%
Costs to Date: not reported
Command of this fire was transferred from Deschutes NF to WA IMT 3 at 0600 hrs today.
Thank goodness, because the local fireteam was a circus of dunces. First they complained because they couldn’t get backburns lit and turn a small fire into a raging holocaust that could have burned down Sunriver. The Snow Creek Fire is bounded by roads and rivers. It does not need to be backburned one square foot.
Then someone on the local firecrew was injured “by a snag” and rushed to the hospital. More details were not forthcoming.
Acreage reduction based on better mapping by a professional firefighting IMT who now have the situation well in hand. The Deschutes NF employees are so pathetically incompetent that they should really not be allowed anywhere near the actual forest.
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Situation as of 08/18/2008 7:45 PM
Personnel: 86
Size: 350 acres
Percent contained: 5%
Costs to Date: not reported
Burnout operations hampered by rain. [No kidding. That's what the report said. The USFS could not expand and prolong the fire because the rain interfered with their BURNOUT!!!]
However, an Incident Command Post has been established at MT Bachelor Resort, and transition has begun to LaFevre Type-II IMT (Washington Team 3). Tough duty! Let’s hope for their sake that the rain stops and they can get some good forest incineration hours in!
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Situation as of 08/18/2008 2:30 PM
Personnel: 36
Size: 309 acres
Percent contained: 0%
Cow Camp and Snow Creek Guard Station are evacuated. State Road 40 (Three Trappers Rd) is closed between FS Road 4270 (S. Century Dr) and State Road 46 (Lava Lakes Rd).
Maintaining the fire between FS Road 4270, State Road 40, and the Deschutes River.
Folks in Sunriver should be very wary of the Deschutes NF policies and practices. Over the last ten years the DNF has incinerated over 170,000 acres of old-growth, spotted owl habitat. Sisters, Camp Sherman, and Black Butte have all been evacuated, and more than once.
The DNF does not do restoration forestry. They do not prepare stands for receiving fire. Instead they allow fuels to build up to catastrophic levels and then when lightning strikes, they Let It Burn.
The DNF’s Let It Burn policy is patently illegal. They have never made the slightest effort to consult with area residents whose homes and lives are at stake. Consultations are demanded by environmental laws such as NEPA, ESA, and NHPA, but the DNF is rogue and dismissive of the law.
Sunriver is not safe when lunatics are in charge of the landscape. It astounds me that when so much asset value is threatened, the residents do not take the DNF craziness seriously and instead wait for disaster to happen. If I lived in and/or owned property in Sunriver, I would have led a massive public revolt against the insane and hugely irresponsible USFS and Deschutes NF nutjobs long ago.
It is YOUR life and property that are at stake. It is YOUR landscape that is so poorly managed. YOU must take a stand before all is lost. Perhaps this fire can be a wakeup call, but after so many years of repeated disasters all around you, one would think that Sunriver-ites would have heard the alarm bells by now.
PS — I’m not saying it is all your responsibility personally, Pippi. But it is the responsibility of all the residents in any landscape to take control of their lives, livelihoods, and watersheds, and as a community practice mutually beneficial stewardship. The Federal Government has run amok. They cannot be trusted, except to do the wrong thing constantly. Locals must band together or tragedy will strike again and again.
Hey! I just moved here, from Vermont, two months ago…(where we have quite different stewardship concerns) So this is my first fire. I’m totally unaware of what has gone on as far as forest management, but I hope to become more educated on the goings on here. My neighbor informed me of some public/private forest management program here [sunriver] that apparently is one of the forerunners in the nation. (He just returned from DC presenting the program to whomever it is that you do that for.)
I digress, I’m all for personal responsibility in these matters. Clearly the agencies set up to “manage” situations have dropped the ball.
Obviously, education is needed. And I can not stress that enough.
One very frightening thing for me was it took me many hours (and I like to think of myself as internet savvy) to find out where on earth this fire was.
Again, thanks for doing what it is you do.
Pippi,
You are 100% absolved. I grant you absolution. Not your fault in any way, shape, or form.
Have your neighbor email me his stuff. I would love to look it over. One critical notion regarding fire safety: defensible space must extend to the furthest reaches of the watershed to be effective.
Another important notion: restoration forestry seeks to renovate the historical conditions. In the case of the eastside Cascades, that means open, park-like forests. For thousands of years the First Residents maintained a savanna through regular, frequent, seasonal anthropogenic fire.
They did that to enhance their survival, which included enhancing valuable plants for food and fiber. Numerous excellent fiber plants abounded, and much of the native cultural life revolved around fibers. They were the Fiber People. Beargrass, Indian hemp, iris, sedges, rushes, and various shredded inner barks were essential raw materials to their lifeways and all were maintained by anthropogenic fire.
I tell you that because I notice that you are also a Fiber Person. You are certainly in the right place for that!
The next time I see him, I’ll ask him to pass it along. He is an illusive fellow and I don’t see him very often. Perhaps my fiber studio is too close to his house and he may be scared of what he thinks goes on here… (Joking!)
We could learn a lot from indigenous methods (across the board) if we only took the time. Perhaps doing things the right way is too much work, heh?
And I will accept your absolution on one condition… If at this time next year I’m still singing my same under informed tune; I expect to be tarred and feathered.
Pippi,
Coming up next at SOS Forests [here] is a series of discussions on restoration forestry, including the historical fiber connection. Tune in; you will learn a lot of neat stuff that may apply to your art, in one way or another.
Wonderful! Thank you! I bookmarked that.
~I don’t know exactly what is going on over there today, but I’ve seen now 3 fire choppers headed that way in the past half an hour.
What happened is that the local DNF team was booted off the fire and a regional Type 2 IMT (Incident Management Team) took over. The fire will be contained, controlled and extinguished in a matter of hours, now. Pros are on the job. Sunriver can breathe a sigh of relief.

I am loving your coverage of this fire. Honest and funny, plus it is the best info I can find on the web. Living near this fire, that is important to me. The “official” sites offer much of nothing.
Thank you!